The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules

The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules

Version 1.20 (updated 12/11/2015)

The Legacy Challenge is a set of self-imposed rules meant to change the way you play the game of The Sims 4. By abiding by the restrictions of the challenge and reaching for the goals of the challenge, you will find yourself getting a very different experience from The Sims 4 that you might have playing casually. The Legacy Challenge tasks you with creating a single founder Sim moving them in to a giant lot, and starting out in abject poverty. Your founder must build their house, build their wealth, and ultimately bring in the second generation to continue when they die. In this challenge you play a single family for 10 full generations. With less control over how your children turn out and more challenges thrown your way, the challenge asks the very important question. “What kind of Legacy will you leave?”

Getting Started

The best thing to do when starting your Legacy Challenge is to begin a new game. Do this by selecting the + at the top of the main menu and selecting New Game. This will bring you to Create a Sim (CAS).

Your challenge begins in Create-A-Sim (CAS). There, you must design your founder. Your founder can be just about anything you want and if you have The Sims 4 Get to Work, they can even be an alien! You can pick whatever aspiration you want for them and give them whatever traits you want. Pick out their gender, wardrobe, body shape and color, and even incorporate any CAS custom content or mods. The ONLY two rules are that they must be of the ‘young adult’ age, and they must be the only person in the household.

Take extra care when giving them their name, especially their last name, as many future Sims will have that as part of their name, so make it a good one.

Once you have finished your founder, move them into any empty lot. Return to the world screen. Select your founder on their empty lot and pick “Move Family”. Locate a residential 50×50 lot and bulldoze it, evicting the family present if there is one. The lot should now cost exactly $10,000. If it does not, it is not an eligible lot.

Move your founder into the new empty $10,000 lot. This will leave them with $10,000 in cash. Before doing anything else, purchase the Knight of the Octagon Table decoration costing $8,200 and place it in your family inventory. It must remain there for the entire challenge. Think of it as a sort of price of a nobility title; a right to call yourself a Legacy family. Once this is completed, you must ponder what your family’s succession law will be.

**NEW EXTREME START OPTION** – With the addition of The Sims 4 Get Together an “Extreme” start (similar to what was in the Sims 2 Legacy Challenge Advanced Rules) is now an option. Successfully completing an extreme start will net you one bonus point (see the Scoring section under “Handicaps” for more details). To start an “Extreme” Legacy Challenge you must move your founder onto one of the new 64 x 64 lots in Windenburg (after the lot on it has been demolished). This will leave you with $8000. You can not buy or build ANYTHING until you earn enough money to buy the Knight of the Octagon Table (which costs $8200). Once the Knight has been purchased (leaving with you no money) the challenge can start as per usual. The Knight MUST be purchased before the first set of bills arrive, failure to do that results in you being unable to earn the bonus point (it does not, however, fail your challenge). (Thank you to Aprilise helping us figure out this new rule!)

Don’t want an Extreme start but still want to use the new 64 x 64 lots? Twitch Streamer SgtShaf came up with a solution so that you can still have the same amount of starting cash on a 64 x 64 lot as you would a 50 x 50 lot:

  • Buy two Points of Enmity for $2100
  • Buy one Von-Windenburg’s Trap for $2000

Place those three items into your inventory (which totals $6200) and start the challenge as per usual with the standard $1800 starting cash.

Click Here to move onto the Succession Law page.

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  1. EuphorialQueen

    I was looking in the game for a way to track time played.
    IE: Week # / Day # but only see the day of week and time of day. Will this part of record keeping play a part in the challenge at all? I am still figuring out how the game plays. Not quite ready for this challenge yet.
    Oh and I noticed plumbing like toilets and sinks no longer require a wall for placement. Might save a few beginning Simoleons with that.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Time played is not a formal part of the challenge. The fact that you have a finite number of generations and you are limited to one use of an anti-aging item per sim and are barred from resurrecting the dead, there is a natural time limit as your family grows older and needs to bring about the next generation. There are certainly techniques for extending the total play time you get…such as choosing the “Last Born” in your succession laws, but they are all valid. The only thing you can’t do is alter the lifespan setting in the gameplay menu; it must remain as “Normal”.

  2. Mativi

    I have one question: Why don’t use the rosebud cheat for buying the park? obviously: only the lot. And the second question: there aren’t more decorations? The thing is that i don’t like that armor.
    Note: i dont’t have the game now, I’ll buy it tomorrow.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      I toyed around with that, but ultimately liked the armor solution better as I’ve always seen Legacy Families as the nobility of the Sims world and that armor would be their title. That and the armor inflates your bills, which makes the challenge a bit harder which is a good thing in my mind.

      1. Mativi

        Ok, thanks!

      2. CloverBob

        so thats why my first bills were 400 bucks. which was literally half my money. Thanks a lot.

  3. Mizuru007

    So the rules of moving in for TS4 have changed. Unless the entire household moves in with your founder, the Sim brings in no funds whatsoever, which is completely different from most other versions of The Sims.
    Is it acceptable to cheat in funds in which you cheat in only a portion of the old household’s funds?

    For example, if I move in Mortimer Goth, and the household has 40k in it, can I cheat in 10k (or 1/4th because he is one of four people in the house)? Or was that taken into account when the challenge was created?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      The rules state you cannot move in an established in-neighborhood family (Like the Goths)

      I’ve heard reports of some sims bringing in $0 but every sim I ever brought in always brings $20k (or very close to it). So I would just accept whatever they bring in the off-chance they bring in $0, but most should bring in $20k, which is why the challenge is so restrictive about how many you may have.

      1. Mizuru007

        Okay! Thank you very much!
        I didn’t know about not being able to bring in people from established households.

      2. Ana Kinatka

        There are housholds which are “currently not in world” but are in fact families/roommates. Just happened to me again (3rd time in a row). The girl brought 0§ because she was apparently living with 4 other sims. They have the same family name (Potter) but are not related, just roommates.

        I don’t know, it just really ticks me off … she doesn’t have the ideal traits or anything to weigh that up, and how are we supposed to find out if they live alone? Of course its manageable (though a lot harder, can’t afford gen 2 for a while), but please don’t state that the 20K are almost granted, because they are not! In the sims 3 there was no granted amount of cash either, but at least some simoleons in wedding gifts and tax benefits, usually about 2000, which enabled us to build a bathroom and buy a double bed. >_<

        Don't get me wrong, I love the challenge and the game and am totally grateful for the awesome work you did! Just a bit frustrated atm …

        1. Zetshia

          You can see if a sim lives with roomies or if they are a townie or not by looking them up in the manage worlds menu. As long as you don’t change anything while you’re there it probably not against the rules.

          1. Zetshia

            Sorry, it’s the manage families menu, not manage worlds.

        2. BabyGirlShaSha

          Sorry if you have answered this a million times already but why did you change the rule about the funds that come when a spouse moves in? I didn’t realise you had & have only just started so when I moved in my sims GF I edited the household funds back to before they moved in – I prefered it this way as more of a challenge. So when a spouse moves in you keep however much it is? Why is that? Also, I haven’t married her yet but is there a rule as to the spouse having a job? Thanks – this is the first Challange I’m doing in the hope of actually completing lol so wanna do it right 🙂

          1. BabyGirlShaSha

            Sorry I didn’t want to post this as a reply – wanted to do it as a new post!

          2. Pinstar Legacy

            In the past versions of the Sims, how much your spouse brought in was random..from about 2k-20k averaging about 8k… which wasn’t too bad. In TS4, if your spouse was alone, they would always bring in 20k. This was a bit game breaking as your poverty woes were gone by the 2nd generation. Then I realized that a spouse that was part of another household already would bring in $0. Since the rules restricting spouses were there to restrict marriage money…with a way to bring in $0 I shifted the rules to say you could bring in any number of sims, as long as they didn’t bring in money. Spouses (and other extra sims) can have jobs and EARN you extra money, they just can’t bring it in for free.

    2. misserica21

      I moved in my sim’s bestie along with her husband and son. They brought all of their family funds and did “not currently live in world.” They are close to elder and almost adult son. So we built a house and changed their appearances in the mirror and I think this makes them plenty good roommates. It doesnt feel like cheating because they have good relationships.

      1. ImaginingMystic

        That’s the beauty of the Legacy Challenge, we aren’t strict with how you play and its up to your own interpretation 🙂

  4. Ana Kinatka

    Would it be possible to adapt the rules so that you have to buy the Knight of the Octagon Table only in case your spouse brings in 20K? I don’t know about the effect this would have on household bills, just an idea …

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      I’ve toyed with the notion of buying a new suit of armor every time a spouse comes in, but that would make the bills too harsh over time. But I do agree that the constant influx of 20k is a bit too much. The only reason I didn’t do this right away is because of the bills. I might put in a rule against taking the “Frugal” perk so that bills would always be at full strength.

  5. Gotaluvsims

    I know I’ve asked this but I can’t seem to find the answer. Is it a glitch that prevents sims from changing their last names when getting married?

    1. Gotaluvsims

      Nevermind I found something at http://www.reddit.com/r/thesims/wiki/ts4faq

      “Sim’s last name not changing after marriage

      Solution: While there does not yet seem to be a fix to stop this issue entirely, you can use cheats to edit your Sim’s last name. Press Ctrl+Shift+C, enter testingcheats true then cas.fulleditmode. Shift+Left Click on your Sim to edit them in CAS and change their name.”

      1. Pinstar Legacy

        This is a case where cheating is absolutely allowed in the context of the Legacy Challenge.

        1. Chelle Baldy

          With the edit of the name could you also edit physical features, such as eye color, and it still be ok? As long as you don’t mess with any traits or aspirations.

          1. sparklemuffin

            I’d like to know this as well. My random townies really love some of the CC I have installed, and I like to go in and tweak the appearances of the townies so they’re better dressed and don’t have bright pink hair with neon green eyebrows. Is that allowed?

          2. Pinstar Legacy

            Yes! Anything related to changing appearances is allowed!

  6. Eve

    Is it okay to make cosmetic changes in CAS to potential mates as long as you don’t touch their traits or anything?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yep!

  7. Ursula8910

    I just want to say thanks as I’ve played sims ever since it came out but always found it boring after a while until I found out about the legacy challenge, thanks for taking the time to create these challenges and give us something to keep us addicted to this game, best game ever. Only got the sims yesterday but I love it already, had so much fun. Thanks for all the hard work you do.

  8. Zetshia

    I’ve just heard that sims can die of embarrassment in TS4. That could make an extreme start very perilous, especially before you have a spouse to plead with the grim reaper. Add that to the fact that you can’t eat fruits and veggies out of your inventory any more so you HAVE to buy a stove, and the game charges you for every meal, and you can’t start a job the same day you get it, and promotions take longer… Maybe we should start with just a little bit more simoleans? Just enough to build a 2×2 bathroom and keep from starving if you have to wait 3 days before you can go to work? Pretty please?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Nope! That’s the challenge of it. You don’t need a stove, just a fridge, as quick meals are free. You can also order chips at bars for free too.

      1. Zetshia

        Ok, I guess I can buy a mirror so my simmy can give herself a pep talk between embarrassments.

        1. Kendakari

          I I accidently bought an easel instread of the instrument my sim wanted, and it ended up being a life saver. I was able to spend the first 3 days slowly making money from paintings so by the time my sim started her job she had a bed, a bookshelf, a toilet, a shower, a counter, an oven, a fridge, a trashcan, 1 mood lamp, and a handful of collectibles/plants I’d had her gather….But it was all still out on the lawn lol.

      2. laila

        can you the founder get a job

        1. ImaginingMystic

          yes

    2. EuphorialQueen

      I have not officially started this challenge in Sims4 yet. But I did run a test starting one Sim on an empty lot. Unable to decrease funds I opted to just work with whatever they had after moving into the lot. My Sim went to a park to use the grill for food. I also could cook a meal on a residential lot without being chased off. Plates of food will keep in personal inventory for a while before spoiling so he could put the rest there for later. Even with only a toilet, sink and bed my Sim could tend to their needs without any issues. Keep in mind this was a test and not be strict Legacy rules. But the point is it can be done with very minimal furnishings in the open with Zero walls.

  9. Lili

    I can’t find the bulldoze option when I click on the lots.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      I had a hard time finding this as well. You need to actually go into the lot, then click Lot Info at the top, then there should be a bulldozer icon to click.

      1. Valen

        Or when you move, you can choose furnished/unfurnished/bulldoze lot

    2. Sora20XX

      I’m actually having difficulty with this as well. For some reason, it won’t let me actually go into the lot. Can anyone figure out how I can fix this?

  10. Bernice coleman

    can you use cheats for anything and cash

    1. ImaginingMystic

      No money cheats or any cheat that will give you an advantage are allowed.

  11. Jerri

    I’m new to your site, but not new to Sims yet have never really done a legacy challenge before. I thought this was the perfect time to try one and yours is really nicely laid out – thank you!

    Funny thing – we all got to know the townies and NPCs from TS1, 2, and 3 – NEW people now! I had to laugh. My poor legacy guy found the perfect townie, but she came with expensive baggage! A teen daughter and a pre-teen son! Eeeek! Having fun with this, though. 🙂

    1. EuphorialQueen

      All the new people are great fun to meet. Did you realize that there are many ‘Not in the world’ singles and families? I love how there is always someone around to meet no matter where you go. Such an improvement over empty lots.

      1. Jerri

        I love that too ! Always a “character” to meet – but I have noticed that many of them are evil or grumpy. LOL.

  12. Gotaluvsims

    I just thought about it after I have already used it. The Sims reward lamps that effect emotions, are those considered cheats? If so, oops!

  13. Jcolby

    Are you allowed to download houses you can afford from te gallery, or are we restricted to building our own homes?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You can, but only if you are sure there are no career or aspiration rewards in those houses, if there are, they’d give you an unfair advantage, so they can’t be used.

  14. donjuantriumphs

    Just something cool I discovered if you don’t want quite as big bills at the start: you can use the “testingcheats true” cheat then “money 1800” to reduce your cash without having to get the suit of armor. Then just put in “testingcheats false” and you’re good to go!

    1. ImaginingMystic

      From Pinstar at work:

      I am aware of the newly discovered ‘testingcheats true’ cheat, however the need to buy that statue is built into the rules. The fact that it inflates your bills is part of the challenge.

  15. Casey

    I have just started the Legacy challenge, this is the first time I have heard of it, and it is awesome! I was just wondering, if your non-founder spouse dies before your founder reaches old age, can your founder marry again? Thanks again!

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      You sure can. I just did a rules change that allows you to move in spare spouses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP2ULL59dX4&index=2&list=PLrmmPKYXqaFZOQIAW9r3-B_zwHvzSaBdC

  16. Dzika

    Just wanted to let you know that a cheat has been found which allows you to take away money from the family funds 🙂 it’s sims.modify_funds [negative amount here]

    It’s somewhat the equivalent of the familyfunds cheat in TS3 but here what you have to do is specify the amount of cash that you need the game to take away and type it in 🙂 giving this challenge as an example you can simply type “sims.modify_funds -8200” into the cheat console and the game takes away $8,200 without you having to buy anything 🙂

    You have to make sure to put the minus sign in though or the game will add cash instead 😛

  17. MarvelousMark

    The sim your founder marries don’t take on the family name so it’s better to have a female founder and have a strict female heir gender law. Other than that it’s all good. I would have married Bella Goth but she’s a Townie and she’s off limits in this challenge. 🙁

  18. SimRusalka

    I just want to say thank you Pinstar, for doing all of this. Honestly, if it wasn’t for you reviving the Legacy Challenge for Sims 4, I probably would have just asked for a refund the first day. The game is just sad compared to the base game of Sims 3 or Sims 2. But your Legacy challenge gives me a reason to play it anyway.

  19. Jendowoz

    Hi Pinstar,

    I have put this query elsewhere, not really sure where to put it officially. I was wondering if we start a new game and can’t adjust the age length of our Legacy Sims, which is fine, what happens if I am playing the Legacy and want to use some of my other non-Legacy challenge Sims and I want to extend their ages to explore the possibilities in depth? Are the new games we play independent of the legacy game or when you default back to “Normal” for the Legacy gameplay will that default the whole Sims 4 game?

    Kind regards,
    Jen 🙂

    1. ImaginingMystic

      From Pinstar at work:

      I always recommend you put a Legacy Challenge on its own saved game. If you want to explore the game with other families, you can absolutely make a different saved game and alter the lifespan length. Just make sure to turn it back to normal when you return to playing your Legacy family.

  20. Kim

    Pinstar, I have a question. Am I allowed to place a sim who is “currently not in world” onto an emty lot in the world my Legacy founder is living in so that she can meet him and make him her baby daddy? I know we are not allowed to use any sims already living in the game so to speak but she’s gone to different venues since day 1 and this particular sim never shows up so she can meet him.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      We are in the process of changing the spouse rules (again) due to the fact that it is difficult to find the Sim spouses that qualify for the Legacy rules. I believe Pinstar said that he will be allowing Gallery Sims for spouses provided you don’t know what their traits are when you download them (since, if you use our random trait generator, there is a chance the traits will pass).

      1. Kim

        thank you. There is a particular sim I would love to make the spouse but my sim hasn’t been able to meet them yet

  21. Nicole

    Just wondering if it is possible to change the face and body for your sims once it has been saved I really hate the look of my sims face and body but can’t find a cheat to edit it please help xx

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Hmm I would say that you could change the face of your founder if you wish, but not your founder’s children or any children thereafter. There is a way to edit a Sim in full CAS mode after they’ve been created, but last I heard it is very buggy and causes parents to become brother/sister to their children o.O

  22. MissHeather

    So I stumbled across a VooDoo doll today while playing with my founder. Are there any rules regarding usage of this mischievous object? I am just keeping it with all my other collectables for now.

    http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Voodoo_doll

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      I see no reason to restrict it.

  23. Jerri

    The game (not the legacy challenge) has me quite frustrated. I’m on my third gen, but it’s just so difficult to find teens and YA’s for my heirs to be friends with or even grow into a romantic relationship. My second gen guy ended up falling in love with someone who was already an (almost elder) adult. Of course, I didn’t know this at the time, so imagine my dismay when she aged far before him. I felt like I was watching a Sim version of The Graduate. LOL!

  24. Michelle

    Are there anymore videos on this challenge? I am slightly overwhelmed by all the rules?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      There are no more official guide videos… yet… but you can watch several Let’s Plays and Livestream recordings from this list here: http://www.simslegacychallenge.com/want-see-legacy-challenge-action-check-lets-plays/. Watching other people play might give you more of an idea of what to do 🙂

  25. Lana

    Hello Pinstar , my name is Lana. I’m from Russia.
    I have a question. Is it possible to put on a community lot Observatory, microscope and rockets? And, in General, to change public areas, for example, to remove those that have, and put the other one of the galleries?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      The community lots are fair game to be changed.

      1. Lana

        Sorry, I don’t quite understand, put in Park Observatory, a microscope and missiles can or not?

        1. Celila

          Hello Lana, Pinstar meant yes 🙂 You can change them.

          1. ImaginingMystic

            Yeah, you can change the community lots. Sorry for the confusion 🙂

  26. Kiku

    Hi! I’m gonna start my first legacy challenge 🙂 I have a question tho.
    Do I have to find a spouse from somewhere? And can I marry him and ask him to live with me? This part was a bit confusing. 🙂

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      That’s the idea. You find someone, a randomly generated townie, and move them into your house. Mind you, they must not bring in any money, but the idea is that they help your female founder produce the next generation of the family.

      1. Marie

        I noticed that in the video you kept the 20K that moved in with you. You used the money to build a house. Is this still allowed? If so then I need to start over because I was of the understanding that no one can bring in money. Please clarify this for me because now I’m confused.
        Thank you

        1. ImaginingMystic

          There was a rule change early into the challenge that didn’t allow the 20K. Pinstar recorded his family prior to the rule change which is why he kept the money. However, after the change you are required to either not marry a Sim with 20K or get rid of it via the money cheat.

  27. EuphorialQueen

    “That’s the idea. You find someone, a randomly generated townie, and move them into your house. Mind you, they must not bring in any money”(Pinstar)
    This point is confusing. I understand not purposely bringing in a rich townie. But the random generated Sims are a bit of a gamble. I am playing a household now that brought in three different Sims at different points. Two of the Sims were part of bigger households so the one added (via Ask to Move In) brought Zero Simoleons. The third in this example unbeknownst to me was the only person in her (homeless) household and thus brought 20K Simoleons. Ask to Move In may also be a better option before marriage. In my case the plus was 20k but she was just shy of being an elder.
    Re: Names
    I am finding babies/ children either born into the family or adopted have the option of naming with first AND last names. The heir/heiress would always have the correct family name in that case.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      You can engineer the townies to be part of larger households so that any townie can be made to bring in no money. Just go to household management on the world view and merge townies into common households before you marry them. That way they won’t be the last of the household and thus never bring in money.

  28. mrspurplepoptart

    So I can’t have a job?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Your Sims can have a job.

  29. Priya Bansal

    I rolled the child trait “good” for one of my Sims and the teen trait “mean.” When my Sim became a teen I couldn’t select the “mean” trait. Are those traits conflicting? Should I simply roll again (and if I do, should I take the new aspiration or stick with the one I rolled first)?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Roll again. Thank you for finding that. It is a bug.

  30. Celliiieee

    Hey everyone !

    There is something I don’t understand. My sim found a guy who would probably become her spouse. But, she lives in Willow Creek and he comes from Oasis Spring. Can they get married?

    And also, how can I see if the guy is in the world or just ‘come to visit’?

    I heard that de #legacyloves can be used, but how can it be used. I downloaden some of the ‘families’ to put in my game but I can’t see them anywhere.

    Help?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Hello!

      Question 1 – Yes your Sim can marry someone from the other town, that is fine.

      Question 2 – To see if he is in the world go to the “World Management” screen while in town view. It’ll be in the upper right hand corner.

      Question 3 – Download #LegacyLoves, then while in your Library install them into the neighborhood. You can either move them into a house or have them be townies within the neighborhood. It’s perfectly fine to put Legacy Loves in the houses around the town.

      1. Celliiieee

        Okay, thanks for your answer !!

  31. about drew

    One more question. Is the Book of Life considered inappropriate in the rules? If you complete the Bestselling Author Aspiration, you can write the book of Life which can bring a single sim back to life, and it’s in the actual game.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      You may write a book of life but you may *not* use it to resurrect a sim.

      1. about drew

        Thanks! I was unsure about that, and it did seem like cheating. I haven’t gotten a sim anywhere near completion, but I saw that it was part of the new game and I thought I should ask. If not strictly for my benefit, than for yours. I’m sure You’ll get the question again. :]

  32. Hilary

    I think I read this somewhere.. but cannot find it now.. While doing the Legacy Challenge, do you only play as the Founder/future heirs? And do you start playing as the heir once they reach young adult?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You can control every Sim in the house.

  33. Samantha

    What is allowed in the lot? To start off with?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Nada. Zip You move in to a completely empty lot with $1,800 to your name. The initial suit of armor you must buy must be stuck in your family inventory for the duration of the challenge.

  34. Scott

    Is there a list of who you’re not allowed to marry? I try to avoid the Goths, Calientes, Landgraabs, etc, but are there other families I need to avoid?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Anyone who is in “Not in this world” on the household management view is fair game, Anyone who isn’t, isn’t.

      1. Scott

        Thanks, that makes it easy for me to keep up with 🙂

  35. Daar

    Now that ghosts are here I had a question based on something I saw in the demo the SimGurus demonstrated. Basically what if when my founder dies I keep the urn or gravestone but don’t make her playable? From what I saw, in that case the ghost Sim would haunt the lot but wouldn’t be playable unless I invite her to live in the household. Hopefully a non-playable Sim on the lot doesn’t count against the 8 Sim household limit the game has built in.

    So, would it be ok to keep a couple ghost Sims from the bloodline on the lot as long as I don’t make them playable or feed them ambrosia?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      That is exactly what I intend. Keeping non-playable ghosts on the lot is perfectly fine.

  36. Laphrena

    Hi all,

    Though an avid Sims player for many, many years, I have not heard of the Legacy Challenge before! Trying it out now. But: my founder’s first son has the option of two aspirations to choose. Are there any rules about this? Can I choose what I want or do I have to stick with a common trait?

    TIA

    1. Laphrena

      Oh! NVM I needed to use the random trait generator 🙂

  37. FyreFlyeRush

    Do we have to keep the suit of armor in our inventory, or can we place it as sort of a family heirloom? Ultimately, I’d like to use it to keep track of each generation, since I can’t paint each heirs portrait. The most I can see happening is a small mood boost from décor.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      It must remain in the inventory. You may take it out once the heir to the 10th generation is born, as a sort of trophy for completing the challenge 🙂

      1. FyreFlyeRush

        Drat. Thank you!

  38. Scott

    Something I am confused about: is it ok if the sim I married in brought $20k with her? She was ‘not in world’ so I had him woo her, but when they got married she had the cash. Am I fine keeping the funds or should I get rid of them?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      They need to be in a household with other ‘not in this world’ sims to prevent them from bringing in money. Use the testing cheats enabled money cheat to reduce your household funds back down to where they were before they moved in.

      1. Scott

        ok, thanks. I haven’t played this world since this so I wouldn’t get myself too confused on where I need to set everything.

      2. FyreFlyeRush

        OK, this leaves me confused. I’m having a hard time figuring out which Sims are playable families, and which are townies. I know the Goth’s, Caliente/Lothario, Pancakes, Langrabbs…but the others I’m not familiar with. I inadvertently brought in a Sim that was playable. He didn’t bring in any money. He had no skills. The only thing I did was dice roll his eye color, because ALL of my townies have Brown eyes. Do I need to kick him out or kill him off? I’m doing a Matriarch Line, and so far it’s just boys, so it wouldn’t be a game killer to kill him off or start over.

        1. Pinstar Legacy

          If you didn’t realize a sim was a townie sim, then that’s fine. You didn’t know their traits and skills anyway.

  39. snowflakefaerie

    Yay! I always do this challenge on all my sims, just got 4 and am about to start it!
    xoxo

  40. John

    I have a 2 questions..are people allowed to use the cheats for bladder,hunger,sleep, etc etc?

    secondly it seems impossible to buy a 50×50 lot with 20k….how do you do it?

    1. John

      never mind figured it out,watched pins video on youtube 😀

  41. Helazena

    Ok, I never did any challenge before, but I’m gonna try this 🙂

  42. Kavin Kishen Kumar

    Hi there! I couldn’t comment on youtube for some reason. So, I’M TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH YOUR SIMS’ STORY!!! Please do continue your videos on youtube. I’ve seen many videos on youtube but i’ve never really taken an interest to them BUT your story is just PERFECT!!! I can’t wait for more of your Sims 4 Legacy Challenges on YouTube!

  43. Kavin Kishen Kumar

    Hi there! I’M TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH YOUR SIMS’ STORY!!! Please do continue your videos on youtube, your story is just PERFECT!!! I can’t wait for more of your Sims 4 Legacy Challenges on YouTube!

  44. SakuraBlossom

    Love the challenge, it’s helping get off my cheating binge. I don’t see why so many people are having issues. To start off with, I got a job, bought the cheapest bed and fridge and toilet. That’s it. (Showers can be taken at the gym). Haven’t even started my Founder’s family, other than to get her married, and we’ve got a decent living space now, and both are in high-paying jobs and my founder’s job gives her a computer, so I didn’t have to buy one. Writing books = quick cash.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Lots of ways to claw your way out of the early game poverty. That’s part of the fun of the challenge.

  45. Trenton

    It was just brought to my attention that the instructions say to put the knight in the family inventory. Does it make a difference if the knight is out in the household vs. in the inventory? I like keeping it out as it makes for some fun pictures, but if we need to keep it in the family inventory for a specific reason I’ll of course do so.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      It represents the *title* of being a Legacy family, and thus shouldn’t be out on the lot to give you an actual benefit. Nothing is stopping you from buying another statue and using it on the lot though.

  46. Mellizanda

    Hello Pinstar! Just want to share my addition to your great Legacy Challenge rules.
    Maybe you and some folks will be interested.
    Its a translation . And i know that my English is not very good =( (Im from Ukraine), so probably there are many mistakes.
    http://mellysims.blogspot.com/p/the-random-legacy-challenge-love-stories.html
    Welcome.

  47. Mia

    Hey Pinstar,
    is there already a site where your challenge is translated in different languages?
    If not, would you mind me putting up a website with the German rules? (linked back to you ofc)
    If you do mind I could also send you my translation to put up here if you are interested in that 🙂
    Thanks so much for creating the challenge, it is a lot of fun!

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Not a central site, no. You are more than welcome to put up a german site, just make sure to link back to our site as well as our trait calculator.

  48. Billmonaghan

    Thanks Pinstar Legacy and Imagining Mystic for your rapid and thorough attention to my earlier set of questions. I have two others:

    1a. To help reduce my own burgeoning Townie population and to help other Legacy Players whose older Saved Games are having trouble generating Townies, I would like to export some of my Townies to the gallery as #LegacyLoves. Going forward, these Sims will be freshly-minted Townies with at most 24 hours wandering the World before they are packed to be uploaded. I cannot imagine this being a problem, but I don’t want to stick other Legacy Players with “illegal” Townies. Would these Townies be Legacy-compliant?

    1b. There are Townies in my current population that would be candidates for export. Some have been around for up to seven sim days and may have accumulated some skills while playing chess and interacting with other Sims, etc. They’ve had aging off for most of that time, so they’re only three or four Sim days beyond the start of their current life stage at most. Assuming that “fresh” Townies would be considered Legacy-compliant, would these existing, slightly experienced Townies also be Legacy-compliant?

    Thanks again for your service to and leadership in the Simming community…

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      1a: That’s fine!

      1b: A few stray skill points are fine. The true random townies generated come with skill points as well.

  49. Billmonaghan

    Thanks again!

  50. Erin

    Just want to say I’m midway through generation two (about to transfer to three!) and I’m completely absorbed and enjoying every minute of this challenge. Thank you guys for making such a fun experience for us! It’s the best.

  51. kiku

    ok, so it keeps crashing for me as soon as i move in ;_; i do not know why. i tried to bulldoze in ‘edit lot’ mode and stuff before mode (i tried your way before) and it keeps crashing on me. i don’t know what to do D: help me, pls?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      I’ve never experienced that. I’m not sure what is causing it.

  52. ashleighanne90

    I’ve had terrible luck with this legacy challenge. Your rules are wonderful, there’s nothing wrong with the challenge at all, but my luck is just awful. I’m an experienced legacy player, too, so it’s extra frustrating for me, haha. The first time I started the challenge, my founder reached level 4 of her career, completed two aspiration milestones and had a small little shack built around her belongings before I realized that I had been playing with aging off the entire time! OOPS! I had to start over, since that was my own error, not a game glitch.

    The second time I played, my founder had almost gotten to the same point she was at before when my game froze. It was terrible (and the first time that’s ever happened to me in The Sims 4, of course it would happen during a legacy challenge), so I had to quit without saving and lost the entire file. Since that actually was a game glitch, I’m going to cheat her back up to where she was at before to the best of my memory. Third time’s a charm, I guess? 😛

    1. ImaginingMystic

      LOL yikes!

      I had a rough couple of starts myself. So don’t feel too bad!

      1. ashleighanne90

        Haha thanks. Third time seems to be the charm for me for this legacy. My founder’s shack is starting to resemble a proper house and she has an eligible heir who just aged into a child. Fingers crossed that nothing goes wrong from here on out, lol.

        1. ImaginingMystic

          Good luck! 🙂

  53. MjrRibeyeMan

    There are no lots in Willow Creek that cost 10k

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You need to bulldoze the big house on the lot called “Oakenstead”.

  54. MjrRibeyeMan

    Can you specify whether you can marry premade sims that aren’t townies? There’s nothing about it in the rules.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      As long as you didn’t hand-pick the traits or pre-load them with skills. #LegacyLoves is a good place to find fresh sims that are all Legacy Legal.

  55. Cherie

    Hi, thanks for the challenge. I am really enjoying it. A couple of questions.

    1. what do we do about the bugged beloved trait from Friend of the World. http://answers.ea.com/t5/The-Sims-4-Bug-Reports/Load-Error-102-122/td-p/3493605 I understand it the only way to fix the problem is to remove the trait. I’m worried that this might corrupt the game. Are there other solutions. Say complete all but the last element, switch aspirations but complete the last element. So its done but the trait doesn’t register?

    2. There is a lot of mentioning of not knowing the traits of your future founder wife/husband sims. Does this mean we can’t ask Get to know – sometimes if talking on a similar topic, you get to know the traits of your sims anyway Guess there is not much that can be done about that.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      1. That sounds like a good temporary solution until they fix the trait. The universal rule is that all cheats, work-arounds or other creative things to get around a bug may be done without worry that you’re breaking a rule.

      2. Oh you can abolutely use the get to know, or deep conversation interactions…or heck give your sim the observant trait. All of those are legal.

      The spirit of that restriction is basically “Don’t hand-craft your spouses” Sure a Perfectionist-Cheerful-Creative spouse might make for an epic painter… being able to craft your spouses goes against the quasi-random nature of the challenge. It is on purpose that the ONLY sim you are allowed to hand-craft to your exact desires is your founder while everyone else is left up to chance.

      That being said, you are more than welcome to have your sim get to know the local singles in town and choose the most desirable from among them.

  56. CC

    Can I use teen marriage and larger household mods or are those off limits?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Both should be fine.

  57. Lynia

    So two questions.

    1) I saw that you said that you make the frugal perk un-allowed. Is this the current rule or is it still allowed?

    2) A major glitch in my game made it so I couldn’t open any houses – it only brought me back to the map after the loading screen. It seems to be connected with downloading people from the gallery. For this reason, I don’t want to download any #LegacyLove characters in fear of it crashing my game. So instead, I was wondering if it would be alright to have my boyfriend create random characters for in game use, so long as I don’t know any of their traits or aspirations ahead of time.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      I was thinking of banning it, but never actually implemented a ban. It is currently allowed. As for #2, I totally understand and your solution is 100% legacy legal.

  58. jade

    so when I’m finished creating my sim and moved into the 50×50 lot, purchased the knight sculpture. Do I just build the house on from there? with the remaining $1,800?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Yep! And keep in mind that there is a very loose definition of the term “house” most people just pile furniture on the lawn as that is more useful than a bunch of walls. How you survive so poor in the early game is up to you!

      1. jade

        alright, thank you so much!

  59. Cherie

    Hi Pinstar, appreciate that you can’t update the random generator for outdoor life but my legacy sim married a sim with the squeamish trait and now I,m unclear re children’s traits and the genarator? Any thoughts on how to handle. Thanks

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      I’m going to be updating the trait generator soon. Just use another trait as a proxy and if that trait shows up in the child, make the child squeamish.

  60. Cherie

    Thanks Pinstar, much appreciated.

  61. Annie May

    I’m going to start my Legacy Challenge now and post it on my blog :33

  62. Ida

    Wow, I must say I really enjoy this challenge! I’ve never tried it before, but came over this a couple of months ago, but didn’t have the time and it looked really complicated. But now that i’ve read through the rules carefully and looked through the comments to find the answers to the stuff I was not quite sure about it’s really fun!
    I’m playing with points, and considering i’m just in my second generation I think i’m doing great 🙂

    Thanks for making this challenge, it’s a new and fun way to play the sims!

    1. Ida

      Actually, I have a question about memorializing… Let’s say i’ve got 3 sims in my household, one of them is heir, the second is the primary spouse, they’ve been memorialized. Can one of them memorialize their daughter? (she’s going to be the heir when she ages up to a young adult) Or is it only the heir and the primary spouse themselves that can memorialize each other? 🙂

      1. Pinstar Legacy

        Yep! The only sims a sim can’t memorialize is themselves. Everyone else (that they’ve known) is fair game.

  63. Cherie

    Pinstar, I’m on my 8th generarion and have tried for several gen to kill a sim with a rocket ship. I can get the ship to crash ( my other sim put fruit in which crashes it), I’ve used different sims who all ( at the start) had no rocket ship skill. The ship crashes but the game says ‘ any crash you can walk away from’. I’ve done this 40+ times. I asked on the offical forums if anyone had done this without cheating – and none confirmed they had.

    I’m thinking there is a possibility it’s bugged. Just wondering if you have successfully killed a sim this way?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Not directly, but I do know that your space sim has a chance of winding up on fire after the crash. Now this could be seen as a vanilla death by fire, but I decided to give it its own category. They just have to burn to death in the post-crash fire. If you are never seeing any sims end crashes in flames, then there might be an issue with that and I’ll look into clipping that death type.

      1. Jess

        I’m having the same problem with rocket crashes not starting fires. I’ve tried with several sims, starting with no rocket skill, and three of them maxed the skill without ever safely landing or working on the rocket to build skill (other sims built and repaired the rocket, then sabotaged it for the victims). I’ve sent sims up in every emotional state except bored. I’ve sent them up with their needs low (they crash, then pass out from exhaustion). I’ve tried surrounding the landing pad with flammable objects – no fires. I had one sim crash early, crawl from the wreck, and then die of old age.

        I’m not sure that there really is a chance of catching on fire from a crash, and if there once was, one of the patches (such as the one that fixed the fireplace fires) may have lowered the chances too far.

  64. Marie

    Is it legal to use the mod to keep books that you have written and sold to publisher? Also mod to combine all services: maid, pizza, handyman, and gardener?

    Who has or can do the memorial to the heir? ex: can the husband of 1st generation memorialize his wife and the wife the husband?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      1. Yes, that mod is fine
      2. Sure that’s fine.
      3. Anyone who has known a sim in life (IE been introduced to them while not a ghost) can memorialize that sim. The only person a sim can’t memorialize is either themselves or someone they’ve never met. (IE grandchild born after grandfater has already died can’t memorialize their grandfather).

  65. Marie

    Thank you for clarifying this for me.

  66. Petra

    Q1: Can our spouse move in?
    Q2: Are we allowed ot have a job?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yes and yes

  67. Malik

    Quick question.

    Can we pick a lot that isn’t 50×50, bulldoze it, then simply use a cheat to reduce our money down to 10,000 simoleans (before buying the statue)? Was just getting bored of the 50×50 lot and wanted a change of scenery.

    Thanks!

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      I suppose that is a fair modification.

      1. Smooch

        Thanks for this! I’ve had to restart Legacies a few times ( bugs ) and also have one going in each neighborhood. I’ve always wanted to start on a different, yet sizable lot, and just money cheat everything down to rule standards. As Malik said, a change of scenery is nice 😀

  68. Keylla

    3 questions:

    1. The rule says we can’t know the traits before marry the sim, but this is just to difficult the “approach”, right?? We can know the traits during a relationship, by the “amicable interaction ‘to know'” (I’m playing the version pt-br, so I don’t know the messages in english version, sorry) before the marriage??

    2. I didn’t understand the rule about ghosts “They cannot memorialize other sims. If they were a member of the Legacy Challenge family”. What’s the difference for the game if the ghost memorialize other sims if they don’t score points?

    3. The ghosts can’t get jobs, but they can write books or make paintings, and receive for them? Or the ghosts can’t bring the way of any money?

    1. Lak

      http://www.simslegacychallenge.com/the-sims-4-legacy-challenge-rules/#comment-15103 Pinstar already answered the first question before ^^’

  69. AM35502

    Hi Pinstar and ImaginingMystic. I just have a couple of questions and I do apologize, if they have been asked before =).

    1) My Founder and Primary Spouse in Generation 1 recently died and from what I have read in a few of the comments above, I am allowed to move them back in as ghosts?

    2) If so, am I allowed to make them help around the house (e.g. paint, cook, repair)?

    3) Again, if all of that is allowed, are you two aware of any ways to ‘move the ghosts out’ after they’ve moved in? For example, do you know if it is possible to send the ghosts to Nether after they’ve already moved in, or do they simply stay in your household forever. I know I could easily move them out into the town and they would live their lives, but I just don’t want to clutter my town with ghosts. =P

    I hope I didn’t waste your time too much. Would love to hear back. =)

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      1. As long as you haven’t moved them off the lot.
      2. Yes
      3. Move them out I think is the best way.

  70. AM35502

    Thanks 🙂

  71. Laura J

    Hi Sorry but couldn’t see this being mentioned anywhere…. Is the legacy challenge going to be updated for the new expansion? I know we didn’t get any new traits or aspirations so would it just be the case of adding on the new careers and skills?
    Thanks 🙂

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Keep your eyes peeled for a big rules update!

  72. Kimberlyn

    My main question is what is the goal of the legacy challenge? Are you just creating a family having a kid and then that kid finds a spouse and continues on and on? Doesn’t seem like there’s enough to do which is probably why I never finish the legacy challenges. Shouldn’t there be a goal for each generation or something like that? Maybe I’m missing something but I can’t find anything in the rules.

  73. Kwood

    Is there a limit to how many children you are allowed to bare per generation?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      The only limit is the game’s 8 Sims per household rule. Otherwise, no.

  74. Kimberlyn

    My main question is what is the goal of the legacy challenge? Are you just creating a family having a kid and then that kid finds a spouse and continues on and on? Doesn’t seem like there’s enough to do which is probably why I never finish the legacy challenges. Shouldn’t there be a goal for each generation or something like that? Maybe I’m missing something but I can’t find anything in the rules.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      The goal is to create a successful, wealthy family to 10 generations by starting with a single founder who basically has nothing in the beginning. There are no goals per generation.

  75. Rafa

    Hi! So, I was playing and my teenage son died (RIP Jefferson). I’m womdering if he counts as one of the 10 babies?! Love the challange btw!!

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Yep! They need only be born/adopted, what happens to them after doesn’t matter for the purpose of the 10 babies point.

  76. Sarah Norway

    So, I absolutely love legacy style play….however, I would love to have a hard copy of the rules that I can print off and have as a reference. Where can I find one? Without printing a ton of pictures…I just want a written copy to have on hand… It’s taken me a while to get to playing TS4, so I want to do a legacy family justice! 🙂

  77. Franky

    OK stupid question. I’ve just started the legacy challenge I’m a first timer and so far it’s been fun. I’m thinking of starting a website to show them off. My founder’s second child (daughter) aged up into a child. And the heir Is their first child (son). My stupid question is this which one is generation one the founder or his children? Or is it up to interpretation?

    Stupid question #2 on spouses. I know I can move in legacy loves from the gallery. Is it allowed to move them into the neighbor with an established household (Spencer-Kim-Lewis for example) and have my sims visit their neighbors to meet their spouse?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Generation one is the founder, generation 2 is their children, generation 3 is their children’s children, and so on.
      And for question 2: Yes.

  78. Lak

    If I use Genetic Transfusion mod for gay sims being able to have babies with their genetics, would it give me some unfair advantage over other players or would it be okay?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You are allowed to use mods that will allow gay couples to conceive children, that is fine.

  79. Caitlin

    I just finished the WonderChild challenge, am I allowed to use her as my founder or would she be considered too OP?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Way too OP for the Legacy Challenge. However both the Apocalypse Challenge AND the Immigrant challenge are designed to be started with a pre-established sim, and thus you could use your grown up Wonder Child for those. I had my Wonder Child Athieania (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrmmPKYXqaFYAOLUY0s9LuEIENQJm6__A) become the founder of my Immigrant challenge playthrough (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrmmPKYXqaFZHfQ8L7vM4BQxvptlwLpu9)

  80. Clare

    I am currently playing this challenge as my first challenge ever and I am having a lot of fun. I would just like some clarification on a few things if possible:

    A. The Spare- For the purpose of scoring, I am of the understanding that anything that the spare does to gain points while he/she is living in the house (part of the household) is allowed. For example, if I have a Young Adult spare in the household who completes an aspiration but then I move them out, I still get the “points” from that aspiration completion?

    B. Memorialization – This has two parts. Do I have to use every type of memorialization once or, for example, can I just have a photo for every generation and no biography, song, comedy routine, etc.? Also, does the memorialization come from the next generation (does generation 2 have to memorialize generation 1 or can generation 1 memorialize itself)?

    C. Teenage Careers – Getting to the top of these careers do not count as points for anything correct? Only the 13 adult careers and 23 adult branches count.

    D. Easter Eggs – does this count as a “collection” as well, or should it just be ignored for Legacy purposes?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      A: Spares earn points as long as they are in the Legacy Household. The moment you move them out of the Legacy Home, they are no longer able to earn you points. (You don’t lose the points they have already earned you while in the house, they just can’t earn more)
      B. You don’t need to use every flavor of memorial. Any sim that knew the sim being memorialized may memorialize them. This could be a younger sim memorializing a parent, or a parent memorializing one of their children, or a sim memorializing their spouse. As long as they knew them (had them on their social contact list) while both sims were alive, they can memorialize. The only other restriction is that a sim cannot memorialize themselves.
      C: Correct
      D: Completing this collection DOES count as a completed finished collection for the purposes of the nature score. However, the number of completed collections needed to get max points has not been adjusted. This is so people who completely missed the easter event can still max the score. If you completed the easter collection, that’s one fewer “normal” collection that you need to max the score.

  81. Alerie

    I’m about to start the legacy challenge for the first time, never done anything like this in the Sims 🙂
    I haven’t see any rules regarding “needs”. Can I use a mod/cheat that keep needs always full?
    Even if there isn’t any rule about this, what is your opinion?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      You may not use such a mod/cheat to freeze needs, as that would give you an advantage over a player who didn’t use them.

  82. kasi

    So the spouse cant bring in money. Does that mean they can not get a job as well? Is it just the heir and the rest of the family who can be employed?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      They can get a job, they just can’t have money when they join the family initially. Everyone that lives in the household can be employed.

  83. Crzydramaqueen

    I’m sure these questions have already been answered, but maybe some one will answer again.

    1. What if you roll an aspiration that another sim has already completed for a sim that is the heir. Can you change it, or do you have to complete it and then choose another?

    2. I have a lot of sims in my current family, and I want more. If I move out a sim, they will become ineligible to be the heir. My succession rule is random. Do I roll before moving anyone out to see if they are chosen? How else do people handle this situation?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      No, you have to keep your initial rolled aspirations. You cannot choose one until a sim completes their original rolled one.

      The rule for random is that every time the number of eligible heirs changes, you roll to randomly pick a new heir from among them. After determining who is CURRENTLY the heir, you may then move out a non-heir child. Keeping with the rule, the moment someone moves out, you randomly pick the heir from among the remaining sims who are eligible. You just can’t move a sim out if they are currently the heir.

      1. Crzydramaqueen5

        If I am doing 10 children in a generation , and I have done my first roll, but I know I will have to re-roll several more times, do I have the current heir reproduce? Also, when I re-roll, as long as they have not moved out, do the other children who were not originally chosen count in the re-roll?

  84. Kingston

    Starting my legacy! Add me on fb to follow along, or share yours with me!
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009761914611

  85. Rahazle

    I have a question few questions but I’m sure I won’t remember them all. This is my first Legacy Challenge ever so I’m trying my best to fully understand all of the rules.

    1: As far as the unique traits go and spouses bringing them into the family. Does one spouse have to have all three unique traits for them to count? Or can one spouse bring in 2 unique traits and then another bring in 1 to count as the 3?

    2: Also related, do the traits that come with aspirations count? (Collecter, Essense of Flavor, etc.) ?

    3: May a Sim memorialize themselves? Or does this need to be done by a family member?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      1. It is only the traits of the primary spouse that count for the purposes of being unique or not. If they don’t have 3 unique traits, then you’ll be getting fewer points in the love category that generation…a secondary spouse cannot make up the missing unique traits. The only way to max out the category is to make sure that EVERY primary spouse each generation has 3 unique traits that no other spouse has had.
      2. No, you can have any combination of them. You can’t change them until you complete them, but they don’t impact the unique traits aspect.
      3. A sim may never memorialize themselves. It MUST be done by someone who knew them at some point in life.

  86. Kayla

    Just started my challenge with Gage Hollis! I decided to blog throughout my journey! Check it out! http://www.thesims4legacychallenge.blogger.com

  87. Saibrah

    I married a guy and he ended up having a job already and makes quite a bit. Did I already fail? x.x I didn’t know that the guy had a job.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Nope! As long as you didn’t seed that high-job-level sim there yourself, you got lucky!

  88. Lina AbuYasin

    hello 🙂
    I have a question about completing the successful lineage aspiration, it seems impossible.. one of the tasks is to have a child or grandchild reach the top of a career. my founder sim during the 40 days of being a young adult and adult did not yet reach the top of her career, and now she’s an elder, and her daughter just became a young adult, my founder sim will die before her daughter can reach half of her career ..
    maybe it took me a while to have my first child, but even if i got pregnant the day i turned young adult, it still would be impossible to complete the aspiration ..

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Having the child finish their teenage years with an A in high school will let them start at level 3 in a career. Also keep in mind that you are allowed to have each sim drink ONE dose of potion of youth, so you can give your founder some extra time to live to see their grandchildren hit the top.

  89. Lifesummer

    How do you join

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You don’t have to join, basically just start up a game, follow the rules, and you are good to go 🙂

  90. Stephanie

    Hey! I love the Legacy Challenge. I find it extremely hard to play, however, because of the Sims 4 180 population cap in the world. By the time I get to my 3rd or 4th generation the family tree is often deleted and potential spouses straight up become deleted even if I am in the middle of romancing them and let them go home for the night. Do you have any work arounds or suggestions for keeping my whole family in tact for the whole 10 generations? Thank you.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      I *think* there are mods that can fix that? I’m not 100% sure though. If there are, you are allowed to use them.

    2. Clare

      There are 2 mods I use. The no culling mod -http://modthesims.info/d/545615- and the MC Command Center (Story Progression) mod -http://modthesims.info/d/551680-

      The no culling mod does what it says, but sometimes it gets broken by patches. I have the story progression mod in place because it helps me control the amount of homeless sims and I don’t reach the cap. Both work with the newest update as of today.

  91. Lícia Albuquerque

    Hey! I have the child that will be the generation 3. The thing is: she is the ONLY child in the whole game! There’s no more childs in any of the citys! Do I have to adopt all the children from now on? Can I make some new sims for the game??

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      You can download and use #LegacyLoves for your neighborhoods to populate them with Legacy-legal potential mates. Just don’t groom them too carefully for traits (You can groom them for appearance)

  92. Laura

    So this may have been covered, but for the aspirations part (athletic), does each milestone count, or the entire completion of the aspiration?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Entire Completion

      1. Laura

        Thanks

  93. Anna

    I’m going to be posting updates on my legacy on my blog, check it out if you like!
    https://thecurtislegacy.wordpress.com/

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Added you to the weekly list and will be adding you to the link list once I update it!

  94. EuphorialQueen

    “Move your founder into the new empty $10,000 lot. This will leave them with $10,000 in cash.”
    There was a question on facebook asking about starting a Legacy in Newcrest.
    The largest lot in Newcrest is 50×40 Twin Oracle Point at §8,500 for the empty lot.
    Can this be allowed as a legal lot?
    Money could still be adjusted using TestingCheats On and Money 10000 to leave the correct §10,000 starting money before buying the Knight of the Octagon Table decoration.
    Has there been an official ruling on using Newcrest yet?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Yes, use the money cheat to adjust the starting funds. It’s close enough and I know people want to use Newcrest.

      1. Geeky Meerkat

        As the difference is a good $1500, shouldn’t we do like we we do with the Armor statue and purchase an item to put in the family inventory instead of just doing the money cheat?

        That is to say if we get The Cornucopia table at a cost of $1500 along withe the statue and put that in the family inventory, won’t the taxes be calculated much closer to what they would be calculated on a 50×50 lot with just the statue in the inventory? I sort of thought the point of getting the statue and not just doing the money cheat was because of the affect the statue has on taxes.

        1. Pinstar Legacy

          The statue should still be done for tax purposes, but any further adjustments needed can be fixed with the money cheat.

  95. Destiny

    My question is, does it have to be a 50×50 lot? Can we still do this challenge using any size lot? I want to go by the rules of course but I am a terrible builder and quite frankly I would never be able to build a house that size. Also, I don’t really like mansions. I prefer smaller but still spacious homes so playing this challenge on a huge lot just sounds so unfun to me…

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Any size lot is fine as long as you adjust for the starting funds.

  96. ElaineofShalott

    We’ll be getting 64X64 lots with the new expansion. I hope we’ll get a rules update so we can use them for our legacies.

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Absolutely! It is 100% in the spirit of the Legacy Challenge to start using those lots!

  97. Erin

    So I have a question, which isn’t relevant to me anymore but in case someone else has the same problem: if someone else, say a friend or sibling, uses your Legacy file with a different family by accident (by pressing the household creation button instead of the regular plus on top), does this taint the game? Should it be restarted, or is it okay to keep using the file though there’s been continuation in the game?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      I would say just keep going and make sure the Legacy family goes back to being the main family played.

  98. Nysoni

    So, I realized after my 1st heir became a young adult for the disney princess legacy challenge, that most of the sim townies were gone… All that were left is three elderly people. Am I supposed to disable auto aging for nonplayed sims?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You can download new Sims from the gallery. We recommend searching with the hashtag #legacyloves to find Sims that you can add to your neighborhood as spouse potential.

  99. annadenise

    I have a question about Newcrest. Before starting, can we put houses and/or buildings in the hood? Like a library, gym, spa etc?

    1. Pinstar Legacy

      Sure can!

  100. Samantha

    Can you create a house for your sim/founder and use the motherlode cheat if they don’t have enough money? And if so, can you use the cheats to give them 30,000 satisfaction points and the one where you go into full edit mode?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Cheats are not allowed in the Legacy Challenge, sorry!

  101. Emily

    I wonder if the “spouse” only means heir’s partner ? Can I move his siblings’ partners into the household?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You can, but they can’t earn any points.

      1. ImaginingMystic

        Sorry this reply was incorrect. Anyone living in the household that is either married to or is someone directly related to the founder can earn points even if they aren’t the heir or their spouse.

  102. Stefani

    I need help. How and when am I suppose to set up my succession laws. I don’t see an option to do so. Please help

    1. ImaginingMystic

      The Legacy Challenge isn’t officially part of the game, so there are no options within the game itself to set the challenge up. I keep all of my succession law information typed out on a Notepad document. Hope that helps!

  103. sedf

    Is it cheating, when playing the legacy challenge, to use the pregnancy mega mod? (you know because the mod lets you choose whichever gender you like)

    1. ImaginingMystic

      It’s not cheating now that they have gender fruits. Just make sure the pregnancy lasts as long and has the same motive drains.

  104. SgtShaf

    Thanks for the mention Christina! I’m happy I was able to help! 🙂

  105. Dallas

    I love the new Extreme Start Option that goes with the Get Together expansion. Great inclusion!

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Thanks Dallas!

  106. Kimberly

    what are points of enmity

  107. Peta

    http://www.simslegacychallenge.com/sims-4-legacy-challenge-rules-scoring-bulletpoint-format/#comment-21610
    http://www.simslegacychallenge.com/the-sims-4-legacy-challenge-rules/#comment-30323

    Greetings!
    I would like to clarify if we could earn points or not.
    Different answers are contrary and FAQ haven’t been updated yet.
    Thank you.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Which comments are you referring to? The ones you linked aren’t highlighting properly for me for some reason so I can’t see what they are. Can you copy and paste the conflicts in a reply?

  108. Peta

    LenaLJ asked about this on October 19th. Imagining Mystic replied that cadet branches can earn points, and that she checked with you concurred.
    This response contradicts this. Can you please clarify and put in the FAQ?
    If the final word is that the spare’s wife and children can’t earn points, then I’ll have to restart. I just started generation 6, and many skills, collections, careers and aspirations have been completed by cadets.
    LENALJ
    OCTOBER 19, 2014 AT 4:11 AM (UTC -4)
    REPLY
    MY FOUNDER HAD TWO SONS AND A DAUGHTER, THE DAUGHTER IS THE HEIR. I KNOW HER HUSBAND AND CHILDREN COUNT FOR THE POINTS, BUT WHAT WITH THE SPARES WIFE AND THEIR CHILD, CAN WE COUNT THEIR COMPLETED ASPIRATION FOR THE POINTS TOO. OR IS IT ONLY THE MAIN LINE THAT COUNTS?
    IMAGININGMYSTIC
    OCTOBER 19, 2014 AT 7:37 AM (UTC -4)
    Reply
    If the spare’s wife and children still live in the household then I believe that they count as a cadet branch of the Legacy, which means that yes, they can earn points. I need to confirm this with Pinstar though! I’ll ask him once he wakes up!
    ImaginingMystic
    October 19, 2014 at 5:08 pm (UTC -4)
    Reply
    He concurs!
    IGNAVA 8 MONTHS AGO PERMALINK REPLY

    AUTHOR
    Cadet branches do earn points. I’ll be updating the FAQ ASAP. Pinstar will also be making a post explaining cadet branches definitively soon as well.
    Sorry for the late response. Apparently some questions have been getting missed.

    I wonder if the “spouse” only means heir’s partner ? Can I move his siblings’ partners into the household?
    EMILY 1 MONTH AGO PERMALINK REPLY

    You can, but they can’t earn any points.
    IMAGININGMYSTIC 1 MONTH AGO PERMALINK REPLY

    1. ImaginingMystic

      I was mistaken in my recent reply. Trying to answer questions while trying to move and plan Christmas is proving difficult. I’ll update the FAQ and my response from a month ago now.

  109. Peta

    Thank you very much!)

  110. Crystal

    I really love this challenge but I modify it just a little bit because I feel that less than 2,000 simoleans is way too unrealistic to start. A 4 by 4 room is 450 simoleans. I picked a large lot and adjust my families income down to 7,000 Simoleans. That’s a much more realistic amount to start with but is not over the top either. When I built my home I set very strict rules. It had to be a studio style home and all the finishings and furniture had to within the two cheapest for that object with out it being considered a child’s object, because a childs bookcase and tv are much cheaper than an adult tv or bookcase. I only allowed 4 windows and two doors. The kitchen area could only have 3 coutnertops (one to prepare food, for the sink and one for a future appliance.) and a small table with two chairs. Lastly, I had to spent the as much of the 7,000 as possible. I spent down to 4 simoleans. The house is still very sparse and leaves a LOT to be desired because it only has a single bed. I thought I would share my approach encase anyone else found the 1800 simoleans to start way too unrealistic.

    1. Patrick

      It may seem unrealistic because you’re trying to build at the very beginning of the challenge. Most Legacy families live outside for quite a while before getting enough saved up to actually start building a home.

  111. Ashleigh

    Kind of forgot about this for a while but I think I’ll play this again. Been bored of TS4 lately so hoping this can keep me entertained until a family-related game pack or EP comes out. I usually play without tracking points but I think I’ll go hardcore this round and get a scorecard set up and everything.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Woo! Good luck!

  112. Tracey

    In the legacy challenge when can you age up the child in the sims 4

    1. ImaginingMystic

      When the game says “It’s so and so’s birthday today!”

  113. platformperil

    Is there a way to do this challenge, for points, by not having your sim marry anyone at all? I think that would add to the challenge. With adoption being a legit option now, this wouldn’t even be a problem.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Sure! That would certainly make the challenge more challenging! Go for it!

      1. platformperil

        Some of the points require sims to get married, though. If I wanted to go for the full 100 points, what options do I have for sims who wouldn’t get married? Or would I just sacrifice the potential to get them?

        1. ImaginingMystic

          Actually the “spouse” is just whichever significant other that your founder/heir has children with first. I actually rarely marry my Sims right away because the one time I did that, my Sim died of embarrassment because his girlfriend turned him down and I failed the challenge. They never really technically have to get married.

          Hope that makes sense!

  114. Fairy

    Is it okay to move a sim from your family out? Like, I wanna carry on makin babies but I don’t got space for any more.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You can, but keep in mind that any Sim that moves out will no longer count for points.

  115. BloomsburyLegacy

    Hey, check out my legacy story? https://thebloomsburylegacy.wordpress.com/

  116. Valen

    Hi, I was wondering, my founder is about to finish her aspiration and I want to know if after that, I need to roll a new one or I should pick it myself? Thank you for reading and the challenge is great, although I’m not playing for points because I’m too lazy to keep track of them 😛 Maybe next time hahaha

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You can choose one! After going through all of the work to complete one, you’ve earned the ability to choose the 2nd one for them 🙂

      1. Valen

        Ok, thank you!

  117. Brooke Disney

    Can your Sims have a job?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yes

  118. Anna

    Can the boyfriend/ husband HAVE a job?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yes

  119. Angelique Wilson

    Are we aloud to use the kleptomaniac trait added in the new update? And are we aloud to sell the items our sims steal?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yes and the trait has been added to the random trait generator as well 🙂

  120. WalkerLegacy

    Are we allowed to move out the elders in the household once the heir comes of age to have children and live on their own? My founder has recently become an elder and I was just wondering if I could move her and her husband into a house of their own. Thanks!

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yes that is fine.

  121. MysteryMade

    My only question is this:

    Collectibles/Gardening stuffs:
    Can I ‘harvest’ ‘perfect’ veggies/fruits/etc from plants that come with some of the houses I’ve created/lived in with other families, or do I have to use the environment rich ones? Also: Am I allowed to buy some of the dolls from a Collectibles Retail Shop I found online??

    1. MysteryMade

      Note:
      By this I mean ‘Harvest perfect garden stuffs” at the beginning of the challenge. I’m setting up Newcrest and one of the homes I built previously has garden stuff already upgraded and ready to be plucked.

      1. MysteryMade

        I know you’re busy… so…

        I really hope it’s okay I harvested/sold/planted them, considering they came from a ‘community’ lot (which I saw earlier is ‘fair game’ and the lot itself is uploaded for everyone to use — #MysteryMade — The Summer Home.) AFTER I’d made enough Simoleon’s from other ventures to buy the suit of armor.

        If not. I’m gonna have to restart. Again. 🙁 And playing on Normal Lifespan is not anywhere close to my ‘normal’ Long. O.O

        1. ImaginingMystic

          Technically the armor needs to be bought first, but we don’t really strictly police how you play your challenges so I wouldn’t worry about it 🙂

    2. MysteryMade

      So – In the end, I hope it’s okay I started how I did. Because this is by far the most interesting, awesome sim-save I’ve had. L.O.L.

      Never used mean. My oldest boy is very mean guy towards girls, but never his twin brother. XD Hates the wife.

      New Question::

      My successions rules are: Patriarchy; Traditional; First Born; Tolerant — My “Heir” has had a girl child — they won’t be having more. His sister (Not the “heir”) may have a male child when she procreates (in a bit)…. if she does, WHO would be the “Heir” for the 3rd Gen? Her Son, or His Daughter??

      1. ImaginingMystic

        The heir has to be the child of the current heir, not of a spare. So it would have to be a child from the heir and it would need to follow the rules. If you are Patriarchy and not STRICT Patriarchy, then the female child could still be heir as if there are no males, you would go to the oldest non-male heir. Hope that makes sense!

    3. ImaginingMystic

      Yeah you can harvest stuff from all over the neighborhood. Just don’t make lots exclusively for the purpose of harvesting, that becomes a bit of a grey area in terms of being “Legacy Legal”

  122. Jess

    Hello! My second generation just aged up and I have a question about marrying a Townie (not from an established family.) Are we allowed to marry someone that might have skills already?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yeah that’s ok!

  123. Margarett

    Is there a minimum amount of children per generation that we must have? I know the max is like six or seven, but what’s the minimum?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Nope, you can have as few or as many as you want!

  124. Ivy

    Can they get a job to make money?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yes

  125. littlesimfairy

    About the cheats we can and can not use, I know we can’t use money cheats or skill cheats, but what mood cheats? The cheat that decreases their hunger, exhaustion, and such. That wouldn’t be allowed?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Actually no cheats are really allowed except move objects and things that change the look of the game. Things that change mechanics can’t be used.

  126. Snowpixies

    Hello, I have a question 🙂
    When your Sims’ children grow up, find a husband/wife and get their children, can I move their families into different lots, not play with them, just move them out? Or I have to keep all the Sims in the main 50×50 lot where I started?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Unfortunately you can’t play them in the same save file as the main Legacy family’s time will continue to progress while you play the spares. You can, however, move them onto their own save file if you wish.

  127. Evelyn

    I want to do this so much!😭 But I can’t

  128. tsims

    I have a question about choosing new aspirations.

    “6. You may not change a Sim’s current aspiration. The exception is when they fully complete an aspiration. When that happens, you may choose their new aspiration, as long as it is not one they’ve already completed.”

    Can I choose the new aspiration I want after completing the first? Or if, for example, another sim completed the second aspiration that I want to choose before, is it forbidden? Does it count in the score?

    Example: Peter completed “Bestselling Author”, and now, Maria completes her aspiration and i want to choose “Bestselling Author” for her.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yep you can choose any aspiration you want!

  129. Firefly

    I am going to be starting the Sims 4 Legacy Challenge on my YT channel 🙂 Sienna McNulty is my founding character!

  130. olivia

    i cant find the lot thats worth $10,000!!!

    1. ImaginingMystic

      If you are in Willow Creek you will need to demolish the house on the lot called “Oakenstead” and use the lot there.

  131. Cindy

    If your sims have the funds after a few generations, can you use à house off the gallery, instead of building your own?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Yes, you don’t have to build one if you don’t want to.

  132. Marie Dean

    Does this include the child aspiration?

  133. Steph

    Is there ant rules for weather a child that is only related to the founding father and not his wife can become the heir? My father got abducted out of his daughter’s nursery and he came back pregnant with twins. His wife wanted to show she still loves him and we’ll she ended up pregnant with twins as well. So I have five daughters and not sure if I’m rolling for one of three or our of all five.

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Who is the founder? The father or the mother? If it’s the father, then yes, the alien babies can be the heirs because they can trace their lineage to the founder. If it’s the wife, then only the children that were born from the husband and wife can be heir because the alien babies can’t trace their lineage to her.

  134. Lucy

    How do I get the sims child to have coloured hair like there mother if thr children can only have brown, red or blonde hair?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      You can change their appearance in a mirror to have different colored hair. As far as I know there is no way to get them to be born with other hair colors. However, a mod to allow a Sim to be born with other hair colors would be completely Legacy legal since it won’t change the challenge at all.

  135. Amy

    Quick question. Does the armor have to be in our family inventory or can we put it out to be used as actual decoration in our house?

    1. ImaginingMystic

      Technically no because it contributes to a happiness score as it adds a “Well Decorated” buff. However, once your in the 3rd or 4th generation that buff won’t really have much effect on the gameplay so I’d say you could display it after generation 3 or so. I just wouldn’t immediately put it out on Gen 1 since that’s when the challenge is at its most difficult. If that makes sense.

  136. cosmina

    Can I create a partener if i use the random traits? i will use your trais generator

    1. ImaginingMystic

      If the traits are random, then I don’t see a problem with that.

  137. queen khadija

    September 20th 2016 at 10;31 am [UTC-4] If the traits are random, then I don`t see a problem with that.

  138. BRANDY WILLIAMS

    Is there a fix with the family tree? I have some members disappearing completely. Luckily it was the founder’s spouse’s parents instead of anyone in the actual legacy challenge. Ivery run into this during normal game play and I don’t want my family tree to disappear… I want to see all of it in its full glory. Help please!!!

    1. ImaginingMystic

      I have no idea 🙁 That would be a question for EA/Maxis.

  139. Shannon Hoey

    If this has been asked I’m sorry for asking again, but I can’t seem to find it. Can we move in to Newcrest on the 50×40 Lot? As long as we put the suit of armour in the inventory and bring the money to $1800?

    1. Brandy Williams

      No, I don’t think so. In the rules it says you have to choose the 50×50 lot. The only exception is the 64×64 lot in the new/originally empty town. (I can’t think of the name for it right now.)

    2. ImaginingMystic

      As long as the money is brought down to $1800 it doesn’t really matter if you use a smaller lot 🙂

  140. Jammie smith

    Wow cool

  141. JJBear

    When I bulldoze the 50×50 lots they cost about 50-60,000 dollars.. help?

    1. JJBear

      Can I move into it and then just change the money to $1800 ?

  142. GirlyGamer66

    So, don’t like the lot I’m on because the grass is gross, the location is horrible, etc, So can I move to the same size lot, but in a differnt location?

  143. ryvaz

    Hello,
    Idk if this have been ask before but does the Knight of the Octagon Table needs to stay in the inventory or can it be place on the lot.

    Thank you,

    1. ImaginingMystic

      It should be kept in the inventory 🙂

  144. Chloe

    Maybe this was answered somewhere. But, for the Sims 4 and Sims 3 Legacy Challenges (I’ll probably do both games at some point), can I alter the appearance of spouses. I know that you are supposed to leave the traits alone for them (right?), but I just was curios about appearance…it wouldn’t really affect the game.

    Also, can you use the gender influence cheat (fruit eating) in the Legacy Challenge, or do you have to just roll with whatever you get?

    Thanks!

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    […] with the legacy challenge (I assume you are if you’re reading this) the explanation is here. I will be following the succession laws Strict Equality (I will attempt this at least, if not […]

  34. Sul! Sul! | the Braidlie Legacy

    […] to my Sims 4 legacy challenge. The rules created by Pinstar can be found here or on my Rules page for a simpler explanation. More to come […]

  35. Introduction to Disney Legacy Challenge | trulycurly

    […] rules of this challenge can be found here. I will also follow most of the rules of Pinstar’s Legacy challenge (no cheats, random traits, laws of succesion, only townies allowed as spouses,…) but I am not […]

  36. Let’s Play Die Sims 4 #101 Eine weitere Hochzeit // Legacy Challenge | Fabulas Fiction

    […] Challenge mit Daria Sonntag. ► Mehr über die Legacy Challenge erfahren ► Die Sims 4 – Offizielle […]

  37. Let’s Play Die Sims 4 #102 Stramme Seniorin Daria // Legacy Challenge | Fabulas Fiction

    […] Challenge mit Daria Sonntag. ► Mehr über die Legacy Challenge erfahren ► Die Sims 4 – Offizielle […]

  38. Let’s Play Die Sims 4 #103 Die Sammlung wächst // Legacy Challenge | Fabulas Fiction

    […] Challenge mit Daria Sonntag. ► Mehr über die Legacy Challenge erfahren ► Die Sims 4 – Offizielle […]

  39. Get to Work Challenge Rules Mega-Update - The Sims Legacy Challenge

    […] The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules […]

  40. The Legacy Challenge | Sims 4 Legacy Stories

    […] I played The Sims 3, I came across The Legacy Challenge and enjoyed playing the game even more. I plan to tell the story, like most do, as a 3rd-person […]

  41. Log 5.30: Always Moving | The Wolff Legacy

    […] not in an Apocalypse Challenge, Dad – this is a Legacy […]

  42. Community Blog: Madrona in het midden: het verhaal van een fan

    […] maffe liefdesgeschiedenis), waaraan ik op 4 september 2014 ben begonnen, de dag waarop Pinstar de officiële regels voor de Legacy Challenge in De Sims 4 bekendmaakte,” aldus Cathy. “Behalve Goofy Love heb ik nog vier andere verhalen, […]

  43. An Actual Update | Raerei's Fortress

    […] Pinstar’s Legacy challenge gave me purpose and on October 7th, I started my first ever legacy challenge with Lemongrass Pigglewiggle. I didn’t know what I was doing, I didn’t know how to write, or how to tease the characters or plots from the game. They’re not horrid posts, but you don’t really get a feel for those first generations. Around generation 5 (December) I started to figure things out and I’m only learning more. […]

  44. Hello and welcome :D | The Legacille Family Legacy

    […] Hi!  This blog is the home of my very first (published) legacy challenge – a Sims 4 legacy currently in progress.  If for some reason you are reading this with no idea what a legacy challenge is (or you’re rusty on the rules), check out Pinstar’s challenge here. […]

  45. The Zuconia Legacy Challenge – Intro and meeting our founder | Zuconia Legacy

    […] I decided to call my family Zuconia as this is what my sims 2 town was called.  The rules for this challenge can be found here. […]

  46. Gameplay Variety in Sims Fan Videos | Nyssa Harkness

    […] the character’s background and personality. This Simmer chose the very popular and well-known Legacy Challenge, which is generally about creating and following a single family line and creating limits around […]

  47. lilo + mimo – Fake Goth Girls – Ep. 12 – Charleston, Racism, Obama, The Sims

    […] The Sims 4 Legacy Challege […]

  48. Introducing Pepper | The Denniger Diaries

    […] my version of Pinstar’s Legacy Challenge, I’ll be following the rules Equality, Strictly Traditional, Democracy and […]

  49. Introduction – Welcome to the Coin Legacy Challenge | shiny gold coins

    […] blog will document my attempt at Pinstar’s Legacy Challenge in the Sims 4. The Legacy Challenge asks the player to follow a young, poor, single Sim as they live their life and start a family. […]

  50. Legacy Challenge Part Two |

    […] Click Here To View TS4 Legacy Challenge Rules […]

  51. Intro | Simmerholic's Legacy Challenges

    […] Hey guys! So I’m going to be starting my first Sims 4 legacy challenge. As I said in the about me, I’m not really focused on getting a 100 points this time around, I just want to make it to 10 generations. Something I’ve never done before! So I’m going by the rules here. […]

  52. Let’s Start the Challenge! | The Park Legacy

    […] Well, recently I played TS4 again, and decided to do The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge. […]

  53. Blog de comunidade: Madrona do Meio – uma história de fã | Sol Sims

    […] que comecei em 4 de setembro de 2014, no dia em que Pinstar lançou as oficiais Regras do Legado para The Sims 4“, disse Cathy. “Além de Amor Pateta, tenho mais quatro histórias, uma delas já […]

  54. The Gamble Legacy - Chapter 1 - Have You Ever Walked In A Room…. | World Of Sims

    […] I decided to start a Legacy following Pinstar’s Legacy rules. […]

  55. The Legacy Challenge Preview & Playtesting in The Sims 4 Get Together #1 - The Sims Legacy Challenge

    […] The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules […]

  56. Welcome | Calli's SimThings

    […] play according to Pinstar’s Rules however, my start up will be a little different, using the a combination of the Rosebud Rules and […]

  57. Babbling Brooks, Chapter 1.1 | Love My Sims

    […] Sims 4 Legacy Rules […]

  58. The life of a gamer.. – Erin Nicole's Blog

    […] challenge will not have the typical rules. Instead, I’m making up my own. If anyone wants to join me in my challenge I’m posting […]

  59. TPIF! Ideas for your Simtastic Weekend – Beyond Sims

    […] Play through 10 full generations and see whether your Sims make it. Learn more on the Sims Legacy website. […]

  60. Disney Legacy — Chapter 0 | gaptooth96

    […] If you are interested, the original challenge can be found here and the official legacy challenge rules can be found here. […]

  61. The London Legacy: Introduction – Sims by Anja

    […] legacy. The family we will follow is the London family. For rules to the Legacy Challenge, go here. I won’t be adhering to the rules super strictly, because I’m more concerned with […]

  62. I’m A Lover Challenge || 1.0 | gaptooth96

    […] The rules to the original legacy challenge can be found here. […]

  63. Wilder Legacy | broadwaysim

    […] I am playing by the “Official” Sims 4 Legacy Challenge – At the end of each generation, I will put the heir up to a vote – majority […]

  64. The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules – The Sim Sagas

    […] So as most Simmers are familiar with the Legacy Challenge, but for those that aren’t, the rules can be found Here. […]

  65. Welcome to the Delaney Family Legacy | Delaney Family Legacy

    […] To quote from Pinstar’s Legacy Challenge Rules page: […]

  66. Chapter 0.1: I am Pearl…The world is my Oyster – The Harwood Legacy

    […] Oh yeah the rules! I’ll be using Pinstar’s Rules. […]

  67. A Sims 4 Legacy Challenge! – Simming With Stef

    […] story I’ll be writing here will be the second time I’ve done Pinstar’s Legacy Challenge. The first was completed some time ago, and I loved the way it forced me to play in a way I’d […]

  68. Future Rules Updates... what would you like to see? - The Sims Legacy Challenge

    […] The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules […]

  69. The Obligatory Opening Bits – Site Title

    […] is also going to found a Legacy in accordance with Pinster’s rule set which can be found at www.simslegacychallenge.com  Note the Knight of the Octogan table in the background.  In just a moment it is going to be […]

  70. Welcome to my blog! – talKativelySims

    […] case you don’t know what the point of this challenge is, here are the rules for Pinstar’s Legacy Challenge, and here are the rules for the Disney Princess […]

  71. Hello! – 10 Generations of Moonglow

    […] to clear things up, the Moonglows is not a Legacy Challenge. Which means I won’t be following the rules. (And there’s no point keeping either) So […]

  72. Brief Update - My Absence Last Week - The Sims Legacy Challenge

    […] The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules […]

  73. Founder: Jace Legacy – Jace Legacy Challenge

    […] you are interested in completing your own challenge, the rules can be found here, followed by subsequent links for points, scoring, FAQs, etc. In a nutshell, you are basically […]

  74. The Sims 4| Michael Jackson Legacy Challenge|Part 37 Playing For Tips | Game Tutes

    […] The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules […]

  75. Alive Again! – The Charlie Paradise Legacy

    […] is not your choice, there is a list of rules we have to follow. We will be following the extreme […]

  76. A Brief Update - Sims 4 City Living & The Legacy Challenge - The Sims Legacy Challenge

    […] The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules […]

  77. Introducing The Sims 4 Movin' On Up Challenge for City Living! - The Sims Legacy Challenge

    […] The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules […]

  78. Sims Legacy: Distracting Myself with a Much Better World – How Do I Wife?

    […] to start a Legacy Challenge in The Sims 4. Their world is so much better than ours is right […]

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